Listen: “If your bottle is empty, you cannot pour out to other people," family therapist and parenting advocate Sam Leal advises men.

Salt 106.5’s Jordie recently sat down with family therapist and parenting advocate Sam Leal to talk about men’s roles in marriage and the importance of balance.

Key points:

  • “I like to think that there’s a health platter, a combination of things that men should access to be able to ensure they don’t burn out in relationships.”
  • “If your bottle is empty, you cannot pour out to other people. You need to fulfil yourself. You need to make sure your needs are met as well.”
  • Listen to the full conversation in the player above.

With more than two decades of experience supporting families, Sam offered practical advice and encouragement for husbands and dads navigating the pressures of work, family, and relationships.

When asked how men can manage the many pressures they face, Sam said there’s no single answer.

“I like to think that there’s a health platter, a combination of things that men should access to be able to ensure they don’t burn out in relationships.”

That “platter” includes sleep, exercise, nutrition, play, downtime, and connecting with others.

“It’s a combination of factors that will support men to perform ideal in relationships, but also in the workplace and everywhere in society,” he explained.

“I like to think that there’s a health platter, a combination of things that men should access to be able to ensure they don’t burn out in relationships.”

Don’t neglect yourself

Sam noted that many men fall into the trap of pouring out for others while neglecting their own needs.

“If your bottle is empty, you cannot pour out to other people. You need to fulfil yourself. You need to make sure your needs are met as well.”

Practical routines can make all the difference. For Sam, exercise three times a week and eating healthy are essential.

“That helps me to be focused, to detox, to feel strong and capable that I can take on the challenges of the week.”

He added that even as a professional, he’s still growing. “I haven’t nailed all of that, but I’m in the process of growing, which is good.”

“If your bottle is empty, you cannot pour out to other people. You need to fulfil yourself. You need to make sure your needs are met as well.”

Connection makes men strong

More than just physical health, Sam emphasised the importance of relationships.

“One of the most important parts is actually the connection time – connecting with other men to either get support or to open up and talk about today’s struggles. That’s fundamental.”

His encouragement for men was simple but powerful: “It’s very important, it’s fundamental for you to be strong, to be able to help your family.

“If you’re not strong, you’re not going to be able to help your family.”

For Sam, true strength looks like fitness, health, rest, and genuine connection. “That’s what makes a man strong.”

Listen to the full conversation in the player above.


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